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Transcript: Rep. Mike Turner on ‘Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,’ Aug. 2, 2026

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The following is the transcript of an interview with Republican Rep. Mike Turner of Ohio that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Aug. 2, 2026.


MARGARET BRENNAN 

And we’re back with Ohio Republican congressman Mike Turner. He joins us this morning from Dayton. Good morning to you.

REP MIKE TURNER

Good morning, Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

You serve on the Armed Services committee. Back in March the republican chair of it said the administration is not giving enough detail. That was March. It’s now July. Are you satisfied with what you’re being told? Excuse me—It’s August.

REP MIKE TURNER 

Yes. The–I–you know, still the administration could be sharing more with congress. I don’t think anybody is satisfied with the level of information we’re receiving, although it is a dynamic conflict. I think also that that’s true, even as the administration is looking to its review, both in Europe, the conflict in Iran, the issues with Ukraine, across the board, both the House and the Senate have registered that the Pentagon needs to be sharing more information with congress.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

Well, on Friday, out at Camp David, it was all on camera, the president’s team gathered. They talked about initiatives they’re working on and all praised him. Secretary Hegseth said Iran has shown no willingness to honestly negotiate. Here’s what President Trump said. Listen.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SOT 

I’m losing faith in them because they do lie and they do misrepresent. Well the other day, the five missiles we shot, we knocked them down. But we were in the midst of the negotiation // Well they always want to talk but they break their word so often. They’ve been very dishonest, very dishonorable to deal with but that makes no difference.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

So that was the president laying out why he doesn’t trust diplomacy with Iran. Last night, he said there’s a diplomatic opening and a deal may be within reach. Will you support it sight unseen? Are we at risk of the president cutting a flawed deal just to end this unpopular conflict?

REP MIKE TURNER  

Well, I don’t think it’s cutting a flawed deal. I mean, this is this is part of a process, obviously, of where Iran has to be in a position where, as the president has set out, that the two goals and that is one—that they abandon their nuclear ambitions and certainly restarting their their nuclear enrichment programs and certainly the issues of an open Straits of Hormuz and so that we return back to a an open Straits where commerce and the flow of oil and natural gas can can resume.

MARGARET BRENNAN   

So the war should continue until there is some diplomatic deal regarding the nuclear program, because right now they’re just talking about the Strait.

REP MIKE TURNER  

Well, well, it’s it’s not really as you as you know, this began with with Epic Fury where the the president went in, which you know we’ve described as as an inevitable conflict, as a result of where Obama left us with, the you know watching until Iran began to get closer and closer to enough nuclear material to to have an opportunity for nuclear weapon. The International Atomic Energy Agency said that they were weeks away as a result of where they, where they were left before Epic Fury. Then we have—

MARGARET BRENNAN

In terms of enrichment capacity. Not weaponization.

REP MIKE TURNER  

Well yes. They would have the opportunity to be able to do so, and then with with the with the straits and they’re closing the straits, you know, and then the we had the Memorandum of Understanding where it looked as if they were going to come to a deal, and then now the president has been trying to enforce the opening of the Straits. Now, if Iran, where all metrics would show that Iran is, is in a position where they’re going to have to come to a table, whether it’s economics, whether it’s energy production, whether it’s the the loss of critical infrastructure, military infrastructure, the loss of of their military capabilities, all metrics would show a declining capability to continue. They’re going to have to be in a position where ultimately they’re going to have to concede to the opening of the straits and returning to commerce.

MARGARET BRENNAN   

Well, we’ll see. The president said they’re perimeters. I think he meant parameters of a possible deal, but we’ll track that diplomacy. Let me ask you though about what’s happening on U.S. soil. The FBI warned cyber actors are attacking water utilities in at least seven states. CBS is reporting that U.S. officials are probing to determine whether it’s Iranian hackers behind it. They’ve done something similar back in 2023. President Trump was asked, and here’s what he said.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SOT  

You know who’s behind it? Minnesota, because they’re grossly incompetent. I think the Governor’s behind it. I don’t think there was an Iranian cyber attack.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

I know it takes a while to officially attribute an attack, but has Congress at least been told which states are impacted? Is Ohio? And is this an attack on U.S. soil amid a war?

REP MIKE TURNER 

Well, not not—we certainly have not been informed at this time. But I think you’ve correctly pointed out, Margaret, that Iran has attacked our critical infrastructure previously. There have been reports, obviously, of China hacking and Russia hacking. Well, one thing that we have to acknowledge is that our adversaries—Russia, China, North Korea, Iran—look at the critical infrastructure that support our civilian infrastructure, like water, are seen as valid military targets by our adversaries, and so these need to be monitored. They need to be hardened. These are things that that we do not do, we would not do, and Iran certainly has been doing this well before this conflict, and this is something we certainly need to be aware of—

MARGARET BRENNAN 

Well, we are at war now. 

REP MIKE TURNER 

We need to be diligent. Well, we’re certainly in a conflict where we would expect that they would continue that which they were doing to us before.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

I want to get to a bit of politics out in Ohio, your colleague Max Miller, according to the latest court filing, he’s been accused of domestic abuse. The court filing says he shoved his then wife, held a gun to her head, poured hot water on her, and had concerns he may have broken their two-year-old daughter’s collarbone according to both police reports and court documents that were filed. He just went live in a social media stream and denied these allegations within the past hour. My question is not about his marriage or his personal life, but I’m asking about the politics here and the party. Should there be an ethics probe to look into this?

REP MIKE TURNER    

Well, Margaret, what you just said when you began this question is that this is a matter of litigation. This is best handled in a courtroom and not in a TV studio. And this is, you know, that type of speculation is better for TMZ than CBS.

MARGARET BRENNAN  

Well, we’ve covered with other lawmakers, including in the other party, the Democratic Party, credible allegations against people running for office. We take those allegations seriously. When it comes to Mr. Miller, he was previously accused in 2021 by President Trump’s former spokesperson of abusing her when they dated. So, given these two instances, is it at least something Republican leadership should look into?

REP MIKE TURNER  

Well, again, this is this is an issue that is currently part of a divorce and part of litigation that’s in a courtroom, and the court should be handling this, which is clearly ongoing, and that’s where this needs to be, not in a television studio.

MARGARET BRENNAN   

So it doesn’t matter to you.

REP MIKE TURNER   

It’s not that doesn’t matter to me. This is this this is where the court needs to handle this. The court has filings, which is what you just said. You were reading that there were court filings. 

MARGARET BRENNAN 

Right, there is also an election. 

REP MIKE TURNER 

The court needs to handle this issue as to whether or not it is the truth and where truth will then be resolved, which is where things belong in a court where people file papers in a court, as you just read.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

So you want the court to handle it before Republican leadership looks into it. (CROSSTALK) 

REP MIKE TURNER

This is litigation. This is litigation. This is—this is a court matter, not a television matter.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

Right, and not one for Republican leadership is what I hear you saying.

REP MIKE TURNER   

I’ve said to you that this is not one for you and I to handle in a television studio. This is one that’s in court.

MARGARET BRENNAN   

Okay, we handle these allegations seriously, regardless of the political party, and these are not media allegations, as you said. They’re court documents. Congressman Miller claimed that it’s a media construct—

REP MIKE TURNER  

And it’s being handled in court, which is where it belongs. 

MARGARET BRENNAN   

I got it. You don’t want to comment. I understand. In terms of your portfolio on Armed Services, I do want to ask you about what has happened within the past few days. Russia fired a barrage of ballistic missiles at Kyiv. Only one of them was intercepted. President Zelenskyy said that’s because there are no interceptors left. I know you’ve asked the president to allow for him to be able to produce Patriots. We had thought there was a breakthrough. However, President Trump seemed to backtrack on that Friday. He said, “We’re talking about it, but it’s a hard thing to do to give away that kind of technology.” Is it on track or is it not? Are we letting Ukraine license Patriot interceptor production?

REP MIKE TURNER   

Right. Well, the actual quote that he said he was talking in that in that paragraph, he was talking about tomahawks and patriots. They also went on to say that the negotiations were ongoing. It is very, very difficult on Patriots, which are defensive. In the in the quote, actually, it included Tomahawks, which are also offensive. I do think that there are ongoing negotiations concerning providing a broader opportunity for Ukraine to have access to Patriot technology to be able to have production and defensive technology. This is going to be very important both for allies and for Ukraine. This technology, because it has become so central around the world, because missile technology is proliferating, so defensive technology needs to proliferate. We have the most advanced technology, and there is high demand for it. And the president stepping up and saying that we need to look to being able to license this technology is really going to be important both for Ukraine, our allies, and really, I think, for the United States.

MARGARET BRENNAN   

But you think it’s still in process?

REP MIKE TURNER 

I think it’s still in process. I think it’s incredibly important, and I encourage the president and the Pentagon to move as swiftly as possible to ensure that Ukraine can. You know, every night there are people who die in Ukraine because Russia is sending missiles into Ukraine and hitting defenseless civilians, not military targets, but defenseless civilians. There was outcry because a missile landed in a field in Poland. Every night there are missiles that lie that land on people and kill them in Ukraine. We need to help them.

MARGARET BRENNAN 

Yes, understood and NATO did call out those instances. We have to leave it there, Congressman Turner. We’ll be right back.

The US Navy’s plan for almost 20 guided-missile subs and why that will matter around China

(CNN) — The US Navy this week announced a “pivotal shift” in its future submarine force, and it’s a move analysts say provides important insights into how Washington would fight any possible conflict in the Pacific, where China is rapidly building up its forces.The Pentagon announced that 19 planned nuclear-powered Virginia-class attack submarines (SSNs) would now be classified as guided-missile submarines (SSGNs) and fitted with the Virginia Payload Module (VPM), an 84-foot-long section which adds 28 missile-launch cells to the 12 on current versions of these subs.Those cells can be loaded with Tomahawk land-attack missiles as well as hypersonic vehicles. Combined with the stealthy abilities of submarines, this will provide the new boats with a crucial ability to get inside China’s missile defenses, analysts say.“Submarines are one of the few capabilities which can loiter forward, near or within the first island chain in relative safety,” said Sidharth Kaushal, senior fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London, referring to the string of islands from Japan southward through Taiwan and the Philippines, inside of which Beijing can bring the most firepower to bear.“Second, hypersonic missiles represent a capability against which US adversaries – which otherwise enjoy robust air defenses – have more limited defenses,” Kaushal said. And getting the high-speed, maneuverable missiles closer to their targets strains adversary reaction time.Key strike platforms being retiredThe details of the new sub plan come at a critical time for the Navy.This year it is beginning to retire its four Ohio-class guided-missile subs. Those boats were converted to SSGNs 20 years ago from their nuclear deterrent role as ballistic-missile subs, or boomers, after the US and Russia reduced their nuclear forces with the 1993 START II treaty.Once armed with nuclear-tipped Trident ballistic missiles, the four reconfigured Ohio-class subs can carry up to 154 Tomahawks each, and have been prized assets for deterrence and combat missions around the globe.Speaking to CNN in 2021, Bradley Martin, a former Navy captain turned naval researcher at the RAND Corp think tank, called the Ohio-class SSGNs “the platform with the single largest ability to deliver conventional missile payloads.”During the 2025 Operation Midnight Hammer strikes on Iranian nuclear sites, an Ohio-class boat was called upon to augment B-2 bomber strikes.But one of the four Ohio-class SSGNs, the USS Georgia, began its deactivation process last month and the other three are scheduled to do the same over the next several years.Retirement of those boats will reduce the Navy’s undersea strike capability by up to 60%, according to the Washington, DC-based Submarine Industrial Base Council.The first of the Virginia-class SSGNs are not scheduled to join the fleet until 2029, so the Navy is likely to see a shrinkage in its missile strike capabilities in the meantime. The last of the new subs isn’t due to join the fleet until 2038.Current inventory includes at least 24 smaller versions of the Virginia class as well as around 20 older Los Angeles-class subs and three specialized Seawolf-class boats, so the Navy is not without conventional sub-launched missile capability.In the long run, leaders are confident the 19 new boats will prove suitable replacements for the Ohios.“These VPM-equipped SSGNs will ensure the Navy continues to dominate the undersea domain for decades to come. By integrating this additional payload capacity, we will have the ability to surge strike power to assure our allies, deter aggression, outmatch any adversary,” Vice Adm. Rob Gaucher, director of submarine programs, said in a statement.“Georgia and her sister ships proved the enduring value of combining undersea stealth with unmatched clandestine strike capability,” the chief of naval operations, Adm. Daryl Caudle, said.“The next generation of Virginia-class SSGNs builds on that legacy with greater survivability, adaptability, and sustained combat power,” Caudle added.Not a one-for-one swapAnalysts caution that the move from the Ohio class to the Virginia class is not a one-for-one trade, as a single Virginia-class sub will carry only about 26% of the missiles of an Ohio-class one. That means it will take four future boats to equal the firepower of one currently.Analyst Bryan Clark, a Hudson Institute senior fellow and former Navy officer, notes another key difference between the two – the Ohio class has two rotating crews while the Virgina class has only one, meaning the former could spend twice as long actually on patrol.But being able to disperse missiles over a greater number of platforms has its advantages, says Alessio Patalano, professor of war and strategy at King’s College, London.“They expand the number of platforms that can bring the fight deep into an enemy’s territory, and as such opponents will have to contend with more assets they have to track, or at least try to,” Patalano said.It’s a key point in any possible conflict over Taiwan, the democratically governed island that the Chinese Communist Party claims as sovereign territory despite never having controlled it.China has been in the midst of an aggressive submarine-building program in recent years.According to a February report from the International Institute for Strategic Studies, the PLA Navy ramped up its production of nuclear-powered submarines over the past five years to the point where it is launching subs faster than the US, threatening to negate a sea-power advantage that has long belonged to Washington.From 2021 to 2025, China’s submarine building surpassed that of the US in both numbers of subs launched – 10 to 7 – and tonnage – 79,000 to 55,500, says the report.In an attack sub configuration, that’s more hunters of US subs in regional waters.Beijing has been rapidly building its missile forces, too.In December 2024, the Pentagon estimated that China’s rocket force had boosted its missile supply by 50% in the preceding four years.The People’s Liberation Army wants “to set the conditions for the invasion of Taiwan,” Decker Eveleth, an associate research analyst at the non-profit national security group CNA and an expert on China’s missile forces, told CNN last year. “So that’s shooting at ports, shooting at helicopter bases, shooting at supply bases … shooting at anything that can theoretically let you bring support to Taiwan.”“They want to destroy things in theater and keep everything else out,” Eveleth said.This buildup comes at a time when the US military’s own munitions stockpiles have seen significant depletion since President Donald Trump’s decision to join Israel and bomb Iran.Close-in operationsAnalysts said the new Virginia-class subs help negate China’s missile advantage, especially in the early days of any conflict.US subs that can get inside that first island chain would be in prime position to take out radars and command posts that would be coordinating defenses and helping Chinese missile targeting, analysts said.That could “degrade an adversary’s anti-surface capabilities to a level sufficient to enable other platforms such as surface ships to be moved forward at less risk, thus setting the conditions for aircraft carriers to provide follow-on strikes,” RUSI’s Kaushal said.Hypersonic launch capabilities enhance the new Virginia class further, analysts said, noting that testing of a hypersonic glide vehicle is well underway.They help give the newest Virginia class “a genuine uplift in the strike function,” said Patalano at King’s College.“That’s what gives an adversary an extra moment of pause,” he said.What can’t be forgotten, however, is that China won’t be standing still.At a military parade in Beijing last fall, China showed off a dizzying amount of new missiles, including a range of hypersonic vehicles, that many analysts say put the PLA at the forefront of that technology.Also in the parade ranks were new uncrewed submersible vehicles – underwater drones, stealthy in their own right, that could pose a threat to any of Beijing’s adversaries.The realities of that are surely obvious to the US Navy. But its leadership retains confidence in an area where it has been unmatched since World War II.“Armed with state-of-the-art sensors, unmatched stealth, and advanced automation, these reclassified SSGNs will operate with impunity in contested waters, ensuring the United States Navy maintains absolute undersea supremacy,” a Navy statement said.The-CNN-Wire™ & © 2026 Cable News Network, Inc., a Warner Bros. Discovery Company. All rights reserved.
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