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Sheriff in Nancy Guthrie case contradicted himself on ransom note

When investigators in the Arizona disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show co-host Savannah Guthrie, released two ransom notes Friday, one of the messages directly contradicted what Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos told CBS News in an interview one day earlier.

“I have nothing to indicate she’s dead,” Nanos said Thursday. “I don’t have a body. I don’t have a burial site. I don’t have any note.”

But he did have a note. On Friday, Nanos released the two notes to the public for the first time. The messages had originally been sent to the local CBS station in Tucson in February, shortly after the 84-year-old’s abduction.

Nanos said he released the ransom notes hoping someone would recognize the author’s potentially distinctive wording and help identify who sent them.

The first, submitted a day after Guthrie was reported missing, opened with “Hello Savannah, we have your mother,” demanded a $4 million ransom be paid in bitcoin, and promised to return her to a “safe drop off location” in Tucson within 12 hours of the ransom’s deposit.

The second note, sent just four days later, says, “We never intended to hurt her, that was not our intention. She perished shortly after she was taken. We believe it was heart related. She is buried in nature now.”

The first note included details about Nancy Guthrie’s white Apple Watch and the floodlights on her back porch, leading the FBI to take them seriously.

Both notes were sent via a tip line to CBS affiliate KOLD-TV using email addresses that appeared to be made up and used references to the Guthrie family.

CBS News has previously reported that investigators believed both notes were sent from the same IP address. That address was masked and investigators don’t know whose computer it was sent from.

Lance Leising, a retired FBI supervisory special agent, told CBS News that releasing the notes to drive more tips from the public was a great thing to do.

“However, so late in the case and after a period of time where they have had no communication with the public, it just seems that the media strategy here is a little haphazard,” Leising said.

Leising said the months-delayed release could be due to questions of authenticity.

“I’m sure, and maybe even to this day, they’re not 100% sure if these notes are legitimate,” Leising said. “I mean, they’ve already arrested and charged people for sending hoax and fake notes in.”

Jason Pack, another retired FBI supervisory special agent, noted that the second message dropped the ransom demand.

“The money is simply gone,” Pack told CBS News on Friday. “No demand. No offer to sell a location. Nothing. People motivated by money do not walk away from $4 million when the plan falls apart. They try to salvage something. This writer asked for nothing at all.”

Pack believes one person wrote both notes.

“Same channel, same habits, same distance from responsibility,” he said. “Whether that person took Nancy or watched the coverage and decided to insert himself is the open question.”

When CBS News asked Nanos about the messages, he said, “Those hostage notes: Are they valid, do we believe they’re valid? We think every one of them’s valid until we show otherwise.”

In an Instagram post Saturday marking six months since her mother’s disappearance, Savannah Guthrie again urged “someone to come forward,” including anyone who might recognize the writing in the ransom notes. She said, “There is a way to end this situation and do the right thing.”

Following a lengthy, and at times unflattering, account in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend of how local investigators handled the Guthrie investigation, Nanos took to social media to address the Guthrie family and concerned citizens.

“We’re still here, we’re not going away,” Nanos said. “If you could just see the team working, you would see the energy, the concern. They’re fired up, and we’ll continue to work this case hard.”

Nanos said he has no doubt the case will be solved.

As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, the FBI is offering a reward of up to $100,000 for information leading to her location or the arrest of anyone involved in her disappearance, and the Guthrie family has offered a reward of $1 million.

Luigi Mangione hearing set to start amid discussions about possible guilty plea

▶ Watch Video: CBS News New York Luigi Mangione, accused in the 2024 killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, is in discussions about a possible plea deal on federal charges ahead of a court appearance Friday in New York City, sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.Mangione, 28, is set to appear at an 11 a.m. conference in U.S. District Court in Manhattan. That meeting is taking place after prosecutors and the defense team sent a letter to federal court Tuesday requesting Friday's conference. Plea discussions between federal prosecutors and defense attorneys have been ongoing and it's unclear if an agreement has been reached, sources told CBS News.CBS News New York's Alice Gainer is inside the courtroom Friday with the latest developments.   Mangione's defense attorneys entered the court at around 10:38 a.m. The gallery was not full when they arrived, with about four rows of press and two rows of members of the public. Thompson's family entered the courtroom at around 10:51 a.m. Thompson, a husband and father of two, was fatally shot while walking down the street in New York City. The killing was caught on surveillance video. Just before 11 a.m., the courtroom was mostly full. Mangione's defense and prosecutors could be seen speaking to one another. Attorneys for Mangione have not responded to CBS News New York's request for comment. A spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York also declined to comment. "I expect plea negotiations to happen in every case, or certainly most cases," legal expert Richard Schoenstein said. Mangione faces both federal and state charges in connection with Thompson's death. He has pleaded not guilty in both trials.The federal charges carry a potential maximum life sentence, which Mangione could still face even if a federal plea deal is reached. "In the federal system, you don't agree to a sentence as part of a plea deal. You agree to a plea and the crime, and then it has to go to a sentencing hearing in front of the judge," Schoenstein said."Maybe both parties try to, either by a binding agreement or by a suggestion to the court, say, 'We want some sort of reduced sentence, less than the life in federal prison that was the possibility here,'" CBS News legal contributor Jessica Levinson said.If a plea deal is reached, it could have an impact on his state trial, which is set to begin next month. That's because of potential double jeopardy concerns. Double jeopardy refers to a law which says "a person may not be twice prosecuted for the same offense," although a number of exceptions are listed. "I would expect the defense to make some sort of motion to preclude further prosecution of the state case on the grounds that it is double jeopardy," Schoenstein said. "I think the question of whether or not it would be double jeopardy is open and complicated and subject to debate."That's because the federal charges have to do with stalking resulting in death and stalking through use of interstate facilities, whereas the state charges are for second-degree murder, a weapons charge, and a forged instrument charge."So the weapons and forged instrument charges would not be resolved by the federal plea, and arguably the intentional killing charge would not be resolved. I do think there's a serious question as to whether this would be double jeopardy," Schoenstein said. "In New York state, there's more robust protections for defendants around the double jeopardy laws. And so that could be a real issue here, at least one that would merit litigation, if not dismissal," CBS News legal analyst Caroline Polisi said.Schoenstein said a federal plea deal would "put some pressure on state prosecutors to reach a deal of their own, or to become part of the deal that is being negotiated between the feds and the defendant, and therefore it could resolve the case on a negotiated level."Schoenstein said it could also impact the defense strategy if the state case does go forward, "because if it does go forward he no longer has to worry about a federal trial down the road."Legal experts say the case's national attention and the supporters Mangione has gained could be a factor in the feds wanting to make a deal."You have a raised possibility of what we call juror nullification, wherein a jury gets seated and there's someone in there that just, regardless of hearing any of the evidence, is never going to vote to convict Luigi Mangione," Polisi said.It was unclear what charges Mangione would plead guilty to on Friday, and he could reverse his decision at the last minute.The start of his federal trial, if it moves forward, is set for January.
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