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Human remains found in Tucson’s vast desert have fueled speculation about a link to Nancy Guthrie. Here’s what’s going on

(CNN) — As the chief medical examiner for a county that stores the most human remains in the nation, Greg Hess has for decades been accustomed to the many that arrive at his office every year after being found in the vast and rugged southern Arizona desert.

People traveling through the remote Sonoran Desert die from its extreme heat, harsh conditions and rough terrain. Most of the people who are found dead there every year are assumed to be migrants, Hess says, because of the desert’s location on the southern border.

But ever since Nancy Guthrie disappeared from her home in Tucson nearly seven months ago, the first question Hess says he asks himself when a set of human remains arrives at his office in Pima County for examination is whether they could be hers.

“Every time somebody found a body in the wash or somewhere else in southern Arizona over the past few months, there’s speculation that it’s the person everybody’s interested in,” Hess told CNN.

Questions swirled last week when human remains were found in the desert about 15 miles from where the mother of NBC “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie lived.

While announcing the discovery, authorities said there was “no indication” the remains belonged to Guthrie but stopped short of fully ruling out a connection. The sheriff’s office later declined to say why that determination was made, when the remains were found or who found them when asked by CNN.

Pima County has for years ranked among the highest in the nation for the number of unidentified human remains, according to the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs).

The fact a majority of them belong to people who traveled from another country and the conditions of the desert itself both complicate efforts to identify remains, therefore hindering missing persons cases, experts say.

Heat, sunlight exposure, monsoons, animals and others speed up decomposition, Hess says. Many of the human remains that arrive at his office are either fully or partially skeletonized, he added.

The national spotlight on the area since Guthrie’s disappearance has in turn led to a greater public awareness about the many people who go missing or die in the sprawling desert and reveals just how many families are also searching for answers.

Why it’s not unusual to find remains in Tucson

Last Monday, sheriff’s deputies were seen at the reported location of the human remains, on a hillside covered in saguaro cacti overlooking a busy four-lane highway in southwest Tucson.

The residential area, which sits on the outskirts of the city limit, is one turn off a road called Ajo Way that leads to a handful of homes with long driveways.

Just three months earlier, another discovery of human remains near Guthrie’s home also made headlines. Meanwhile, investigators continue to run lab analyses on DNA found at her home as the desperate search for Guthrie continues.

Many of the human remains found in the Sonoran Desert, which covers over 100,000 miles, are believed to be people who have often died from dehydration or exposure to other harsh conditions, according to experts including Hess.

The desert’s location on the southern border has led to many migrants attempting to cross it by using dangerous backcountry routes, the experts said.

All four of the land border states — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — have significantly high rates of human remains discovered and unidentified persons cases every year, according to Dr. Molly Kaplan, post-doctoral scholar at Texas State University who also works for its program focused on border crossing-related deaths in Texas.

Anthropology experts like Kaplan consider deaths in those regions an ongoing “chronic mass disaster,” she says.

Most of the roughly 150 sets of human remains that Hess says are discovered in Pima County every year turn up after monsoon season ends in late September, said Bradley Bartos, assistant professor at the University of Arizona.

Monsoons bring extreme winds and flash flooding that can free the remains from wedged or remote positions and push them “down-wash into a more eminently discoverable place,” Bartos said.

“Those same reasons explain why there is very low probability those recently discovered remains will turn out to be related to the Nancy Guthrie case,” Bartos said.

Hess says he’s always been able to quickly rule out that any of the human remains found in Pima County were consistent with Guthrie.

He says his office receives up to 5,000 death reports yearly and stores about 600 sets of human remains, which is the most of any county nationwide.

In comparison, Tucson’s county seat is storing 300 more unidentified human remains than Los Angeles County — an area home to 9 million more residents, according to NamUs.

Pima County, however, is set up to handle the workload. “We’ve had a lot of experience with people dying in desert areas,” Hess says.

It’s unusual for even one anthropologist to be on staff at a medical examiner’s office, but there are three at Hess’ office, which he says is because, “We just get the volume of skeletal remains.”

Damage to the remains could complicate evidence

The discovery of human remains that set off a firestorm of questions about a possible link to Guthrie developed during an agonizing, monthslong search for the beloved mother.

The investigation continues to produce few public leads despite intensive efforts to find her.

But the lack of clarity from officials doesn’t mean they’ve hit a dead end; There may be “practical law enforcement concerns behind their silence,” according to CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller.

Authorities saying there is no indication the remains are tied to the Guthrie case and a statement officially ruling it out are “two different things,” Miller said.

“The first requires an investigative judgment based on what they see, but the second requires actual scientific evidence,” he said. “Authorities understand that ruling out a connection before they are certain would only draw more criticism to a case where they have already heard their share.”

But the scientific evidence needed to rule out that connection could be complicated if the remains are damaged, said Miller.

With a complete set of remains, a forensic pathologist could determine fairly quickly whether the bones belonged to a male or female, but without, that task could prove more difficult, he added.

The condition of the remains is unclear and officials did not respond to CNN’s request for comment, but Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said the remains had already been at the location “for an extended period of time” by the time they were discovered.

In the desert, it’s common for human remains to be damaged and become skeletal much faster than in other environments — even as soon as a month or two, according to Hess.

Anthropologists such as those at Hess’ office work with the bones to create biological profiles that will help determine the sex and estimate the age, according to Kaplan. At that point, they need to rely on DNA to complete the process, which can be difficult to extract when the remains are fragile, she said.

Once they are recovered, the remains are often sun-bleached, scavenged and without any recognizable features, Kaplan said. Remains in the desert might not only get damaged but also scattered over large areas, she added.

Damage to the remains creates challenges for families who don’t know where to report their loved one missing, as well as for law enforcement trying to coordinate search efforts and recover remains, she added.

Number of human remains in deserts is underreported

Even with the volume of lives lost in deserts, experts believe “the numbers of recorded remains found in these environments is a gross underestimate,” Kaplan said.

Taking into consideration all of the people who haven’t been discovered, it would be impossible to quantify the number of lives lost in the area every year and the lasting impact on those left searching for them.

To help families with missing loved ones get closure, the Pima County medical examiner started a program in 2018, making it the only county nationwide to store skeletal remains in an air-conditioned space, according to the National Association of Counties.

Medical examiners typically cremate remains after a certain period of time if they are not claimed, which prevents family members from making an identification at a later time, Hess said.

Even though it comes as a byproduct of the devastating and ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie since her apparent kidnapping in February, Kaplan says any awareness of what anthropologists call the “chronic mass disaster” – or the countless yearly deaths near the southern border – is important.

“It makes sense that people would have questions when there’s a specific person who is being looked for,” Kaplan said. “But the reality is that this is happening quite regularly and actually needs to be talked about more.”

“Every missing person counts,” she added.

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‘We should support him:’ Gianni Infantino clings on to FIFA power and former soccer great Samuel Eto’o wants him to stay

(CNN) — In recent weeks, it might have felt inevitable that Gianni Infantino would be forced to resign as FIFA president.The walls were closing in on him, and the rising tide of criticism following his failed attempt to rush through his controversial FIFA Forward Enterprise (FFE) proposal seemed overwhelming.And yet, despite calls for him to step down still echoing around the sport, Infantino is still holding on to power with the FIFA presidential election fast approaching in March.And while some don’t want to wait that long to have the chance of toppling Infantino, the current FIFA boss does have some support swimming in the sea of objectors.One of those people is the president of the Cameroonian Football Federation (FECAFOOT) Samuel Eto’o, who recently told CNN Sports in an exclusive interview that Infantino hasn’t done anything wrong and actually called for the controversial plan that caused this tumultuous situation to be revisited.Eto’o was once one of the best players in the world, scoring countless goals and winning major trophies for the likes of Barcelona, Inter Milan, Chelsea and Real Madrid.He was elected FECAFOOT president in 2021 and has since set about growing the profile of both Cameroonian and African soccer as a whole.“I don’t think that President Gianni Infantino has done anything wrong,” Eto’o told CNN Sports when asked about the FIFA president’s conduct regarding the FFE plan.“I think the timing of all of that is because there’s an election coming out, when Gianni Infantino is standing. All of this has happened because there’s an election coming out, that’s all there is.”Eto’o’s voice will come as a welcome refuge for Infantino, who has been battered from pillar to post by a host of confederations. European body UEFA has threatened to boycott future tournaments, while the North & Central American and Caribbean governing body CONCACAF and the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) demanded a change in leadership.The upcoming Under-20 Women’s World Cup in September could be the next flashpoint, with UEFA teams potentially not taking part. That would mean six of the qualified teams wouldn’t play, including the current host Poland.‘Incredible’ FFE planThe Confederation of African Football (CAF) has been a rare backer of Infantino, although questions remain about which individual nations actually support its federation’s stance.Cameroon appears to be very much in line, and Infantino even name-checked Eto’o in a ‘thank-you post’ on Instagram last week.“President Gianni Infantino has changed football,” Eto’o added, urging fellow African nations to support the FIFA president.“He’s given opportunities to nations that didn’t have those opportunities to take part in the most beautiful tournament, the World Cup. He enabled smaller nations to get seats at these competitions.“He has helped our continent. He’s helped our federations to develop much more quickly, and we need to acknowledge that. We need to accept and recognize what he’s done, and we should support him for everything he’s done up to now.”Eto’o told CNN Sports the proposed plan would have helped distribute wealth in a fairer manner, allowing smaller nations to compete with the biggest in the world by having better facilities and resources. He said it would have helped teams like Cameroon to attract the best players in the world – such as Kylian Mbappé, who was born in France but who has Cameroonian heritage through his father.“There are federations in other continents that are in the same situation as us, that find themselves more or less at the same financial level as us to develop the football that we love so much. We want to see the (Lionel) Messis, we want to see the Mbappés, but I would like to see Mbappé play for Cameroon.”FIFA has already apologized for some of its actions and scrapped the FFE proposal. It also backed Infantino after a crisis meeting in Morocco last month.The narrative from FIFA now is that erroneous media reporting blew the proposed plans out of context, and that’s something echoed by Eto’o, who still thinks it was a good idea and hopes it can be debated if Infantino is reelected next year.“The bigger nations took up the media space. They gave their point of view, and President Gianni Infantino wanted to keep the family of football together, and he decided to withdraw the project,” he said.“I remain convinced that for us as Africans, this project was something that could have been incredible. It would have reset the balance of power in football to ensure that our talent doesn’t disappear and end up playing for other nations.“At the end of the day, those who have talked about the project and who’ve given their opinion haven’t properly read what it’s all about, and in some cases, they looked at it from their dominant position.He added: “I want to see all of my colleagues, all of the presidents, re-reading the project. After President Infantino is re-elected, we will have the strength to ask for this project to be put back on the table for discussion.“I remain convinced that, if there is a democratic vote, this project will be adopted because it’s good for the majority.”Support for InfantinoEto’o is not the only person banging the drum for Infantino in what’s become an increasingly fractured landscape.Support from CAF could be crucial, but there is also sympathy from other parts of the world.South America’s CONMEBOL has praised FIFA for scrapping its controversial plan but stopped short of calling for Infantino to resign. The Argentinian FA has also thrown its full weight behind the beleaguered leader.He also has support from Mexico (member of CONCACAF) and AFC members Qatar, Indonesia and the Philippines, showing how some national soccer associations are breaking away from the stance of their confederations.It’s a numbers game involving which of the 211 national associations are either for or against Infantino staying on.The election next year can’t come soon enough for some critics, although it’s not yet clear who would challenge Infantino – contenders need to come forward by the November 18 deadline.But there might be another way to push the leader out early.Should 20% of FIFA’s 211 member nations make a formal written request, an extraordinary congress would be called, as per FIFA’s statutes. A vote of no confidence in Infantino could then be launched, giving all members a chance to decide his fate – although CNN Sports could find no official guidelines about this potenital process.But for now, the FIFA president remains in post. And despite countless new criticisms emerging every day, there is belief from people such as Eto’o, that the leader can somehow stay on.The-CNN-Wire™ & © 2026 Cable News Network, Inc., a Warner Bros. Discovery Company. All rights reserved.
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