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‘We just need someone who’s not crazy’: How the White House decided on Erica Schwartz for CDC director

(CNN) — Over the course of a year, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has seen a traumatic shooting, abrupt leadership changes and a shattering of its image as a globally respected public health agency.

So by the time the Trump administration started looking for a new director, there was one requirement that topped the search criteria.

“We just need someone who’s not crazy,” a White House official told CNN amid the lengthy hunt for a nominee that finally culminated with Trump tapping Erica Schwartz, a former deputy surgeon general and retired US Coast Guard officer, for the job in April.

On Wednesday, Schwartz — President Donald Trump’s third pick to lead the CDC — appears before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee to face confirmation. She testifies alongside Sean Kaufman, the president’s nominee for Assistant Secretary of Preparedness and Response.

Schwartz’s selection was aimed at bringing stability to the agency after near-constant upheaval that has decimated morale and deeply shaken Americans’ faith in the administration’s health agenda, senior health officials and others familiar with the matter told CNN at the time.

In the months since, the need for strong CDC leadership has only sharpened. The public health agency has battled disease outbreaks on multiple fronts, providing support for an Ebola outbreak in central Africa while scrambling to contain a spike in parasitic diarrhea across multiple states.

Schwartz is a notable departure from prior contenders considered by the administration, who have toed the “Make America Healthy Again” line. She has a lengthy record of guiding vaccination programs and crises responses for the government – a stark contrast to Trump’s first CDC pick, whose nomination was withdrawn, in part, because it became clear his vaccine skepticism would prevent him from getting the job.

Her candidacy has already won praise on Capitol Hill, generating hope within the administration that she’ll win quick confirmation.

And as the White House intensifies its focus on the midterm elections, the move is the latest sign of how significantly Trump aides have sought to rein in a Health and Human Services Department led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that once enjoyed wide latitude to pursue divisive efforts to overhaul vaccines and other core health policies.

But the move has already shaken the MAHA faithful, while still leaving some mainstream public health experts unconvinced.

“She’s a good and well-qualified nominee, and  would be in any administration. However, the issue is not her qualifications — it’s the environment that she’s being asked to work in,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America. “If this is supposed to be some kind of pivot away from what’s been going on for the last year, it will all be window dressing if RFK Jr. is still in place.”

Meanwhile, Toby Rogers, a prominent vaccine critic, declared on X that Schwartz’s appointment would be “a slap in the face to the medical freedom base that gave Trump the presidency in 2016 and 2024.”

“The White House isn’t even trying to win the midterms at this point,” he added.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

A notable shift

The White House has been eager to get the health department away from unflattering headlines in the run-up to midterm elections that could cost Republicans control of Congress — and stall President Donald Trump’s agenda.

Vaccines had been a particular sticking point. Trump withdrew his first nominee, former congressman  Dr. Dave Weldon, when it became clear his vaccine views would stall a vote.

The CDC director who was confirmed, Dr. Susan Monarez — a scientist and longtime public health official — immediately clashed with Kennedy over vaccine policies and his efforts to oust some senior CDC officials. She was removed less than a month into the job.

After Monarez’s high-profile departure last August, some Trump officials questioned whether it was even worth attempting  to find another nominee to run the agency.

Kennedy installed his then-deputy secretary, Jim O’Neill, as interim head, and sought to concentrate much of the decision-making among the department’s political leadership in Washington.

Yet senior White House and HHS officials soon soured on O’Neill, who rarely spent any time at the CDC’s Atlanta headquarters and was seen among political appointees as a subpar public communicator, according to people familiar with the matter.

The agency is currently being overseen by Jay Bhattacharya, who was acting director until March, and is still managing some duties; Bhattacharya is also director of the National Institutes of Health.

The White House, in the meantime, grew increasingly frustrated with HHS’ constant internal upheaval and was alarmed by polling showing that Kennedy’s vaccine agenda threatened to drag down the GOP in the midterms.

The struggle to steer health messaging onto more populist ground was evident during a string of HHS budget hearings in April, when Kennedy was interrogated by Democrats on measles outbreaks, vaccine safety, and the causes of autism, along with at least one reference to raccoon genitalia that was recently disclosed in a book citing Kennedy’s alleged diary entries.

The secretary variously defended his actions and promised improvements, particularly at the CDC, where he conceded morale was at a “nadir” last year amid layoffs and high-profile departures.

“I think this new team is really going to be able to revolutionize CDC and get it back on track,” he said before the House Appropriations subcommittee in April, referencing Schwartz and three new public health appointees named that month.

Several months of internal discussions about smoothing out the HHS upheaval preceded the pick.

In late January, Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, ordered a review of the department. Afterward, White House officials worked alongside Kennedy to orchestrate a shakeup of HHS leadership, including jettisoning O’Neill and installing new advisers atop the department.

One of those advisers, Medicare chief Chris Klomp, was named HHS’ chief counselor and has since moved quickly to stabilize HHS and its various sub-agencies, three people familiar with the situation told CNN. Klomp is well liked within the White House and has come to wield remarkable influence over personnel decisions and other critical activities, those people said.

Among the priorities was to find a permanent CDC director who could ably run the agency — and crucially, avoid subjecting the administration to yet more damaging news cycles that would distract from the White House’s core midterms message.

Klomp led the effort to identify and interview candidates over several weeks, the sources said, seeking officials mainstream enough to win confirmation in a closely divided Senate, yet still willing to work closely with Kennedy on a broader overhaul of the CDC.

In a notable shift, that criteria did not include sharing Kennedy’s skepticism of vaccines, two of the sources familiar with the selection process said. Kennedy was initially skeptical of Schwartz as a potential candidate, two people familiar with the matter said, but grew more supportive after meeting with her, ultimately signing off on her recommendation to the White House.

Meanwhile Klomp’s influence grew as he led the search for Schwartz and other top health officials. In June, Trump named Klomp deputy secretary of HHS, effectively making him Kennedy’s second-in-command at the agency.

Kennedy’s power on the wane?

Since taking tighter control of HHS’ activities, White House officials have discouraged Kennedy and his aides from publicly discussing their efforts to overhaul vaccine policies — viewing the issue as politically toxic to voters and unhelpful ahead of the midterms.

In a further effort to signal HHS’ renewed commitment to stabilizing the agency, officials also pre-emptively lined up top advisers  whom they planned to appoint around Schwartz. They include former Walmart executive Sean Slovenski, Texas health commissioner Jennifer Shuford and senior Food and Drug Administration official Sara Brenner.

Brenner, a career staffer who closely aligned herself with Kennedy at the outset of the administration, is expected to serve as a liaison between Kennedy and the CDC’s leadership in Atlanta, one of the people said, while also serving as a top adviser to Kennedy on the agency’s priorities.

Kennedy has largely gone along with the changes overseen by the White House in recent months, mindful of remaining close to Trump and still of the belief that he can make headway on some of his own personal priorities, people familiar with the secretary’s thinking said.

He is expected to spend much of the months leading up to the midterms on the road, talking up the administration’s work on healthier eating and lower drug prices. He has largely dropped any public discussion of further vaccine changes, and acquiesced to a White House effort to boost a pesticide that he had once vocally opposed.

Yet for some close Kennedy supporters who once heralded his appointment atop HHS as the start of a health care revolution, the sudden reversion back to a more traditional set of priorities has proven increasingly tough to swallow.

Aaron Siri, a vaccine injury lawyer who has worked as Kennedy’s personal attorney and sought to unravel federal vaccine policies, told CNN: “The only thing [Schwartz] will likely restore is the CDC to business as usual – cheerleading for industry instead of being a regulator over industry.”

“I believe that left to his own devices, Secretary Kennedy would not have chosen her,” he added.

This story has been updated with additional information.

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Why this time around, Netanyahu’s meeting with Trump might not go to script

(CNN) — For years, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s trips to meet US President Donald Trump in Washington followed a choreographed script: a red carpet, a warm handshake, and shared messages about the closeness of the Israel-US alliance.But the relationship has markedly shifted since the two last met five months ago. The close cooperation and effusive praise from the start of the Iran war have given way to Trump’s expletive-laden outbursts directed at his most vocal international advocate.This is Netanyahu’s seventh visit to the US since Trump returned to power — more than any other world leader. This time, though, he arrives in Washington as a leader facing reelection, trying to steady a relationship that has grown visibly strained.Netanyahu has been working to secure an invitation to the White House for several weeks, according to a US official and an Israeli source, to discuss progress in the Iran war and warn Trump against diplomatic concessions.Trump had been resistant to meeting, and some White House officials have been frustrated at what they regarded as Israeli attempts to secure a meeting through media leaks — to “will a meeting into existence,” the US official said. This week’s funeral of US Sen. Lindsey Graham provided an opportunity for a sit-down, even though it will be secondary to the larger event.A senior US administration official said Trump has a “strong relationship” with Netanyahu and that Israel has “no greater friend” than the American president. “Americans and our allies around the world are already safer for the United States and Israel’s bold actions to deny the Iranian regime the ability to develop a nuclear weapon,” the official told CNN.When the two leaders last met, in February, they laid the groundwork for what became a joint military campaign against Iran. The opening strikes of the war became a showcase of unprecedented military coordination, which Netanyahu and Trump both eagerly promoted and praised. But as the war dragged on, failing to achieve the overly optimistic goal of toppling the Iranian regime, the gap between them became clear: Netanyahu wanted to keep pressing – Trump wanted an exit.In the lead-up to the war, Trump had been convinced by the prime minister and others that the conflict would be contained and last a matter of weeks. Several months later, his anger at the current situation — an uneasy and deadly stalemate — has led to expletive-filled private meetings and fury at the regime in Tehran for not folding in the way he once expected, according to a US official.Netanyahu plans to present Trump with fresh intelligence on the state of Iran’s nuclear and military rebuilding, an Israeli source said, though he said Israel assesses “Trump has little interest in resuming a full fight, at least before America’s elections in November.”The Israeli leader has avoided confronting Trump publicly over the sudden April ceasefire but his political allies slammed the agreement with Iran, and pro-Netanyahu media outlets openly targeted the deal’s architects: Vice President JD Vance, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff. Vance in turn accused members of Netanyahu’s cabinet of working to sabotage the Iran negotiations and sway American public opinion against the agreement, warning that Israel is alienating “the only powerful ally they have left.”Trump is acutely aware of the political pressures Netanyahu faces ahead of Israel’s national election in October, according to officials, and knows his support for the prime minister could be critical. Aware of that leverage, Trump has selectively shown support, including last week when he said Netanyahu would not be arrested if he came to the United States after New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s initial refusal to roll back a campaign pledge to do so.Trump has not blamed Netanyahu for the predicament, at least in public. But he has called him “crazy” and “difficult” for continuing a bombing campaign inside Lebanon that threatened a ceasefire. And he has excoriated him over the telephone for diverging from Trump’s war aims.That divergence of aims extends beyond Iran.As Trump pushed Netanyahu to stop fighting against Hezbollah, Lebanon became another point of friction. In one phone call in early-June reported by Axios, he told Netanyahu, “Everybody hates you now … everybody hates Israel because of this.”Israel eventually agreed to a trilateral agreement with Lebanon one month ago but refuses to withdraw completely from southern Lebanon without Hezbollah’s disarmament first. Netanyahu told his security cabinet Sunday that the Trump administration wants to pull Israeli forces back from positions in Lebanon, as well as in Gaza and Syria, according to an Israeli source briefed on the meeting.Netanyahu, the source told CNN, clarified that he intends to oppose the idea.In addition to longstanding regional conflicts, two more issues emerged in recent weeks: Trump’s potential plans to sell advanced stealth F-35 fighter jets to Turkey and the US-Saudi civil nuclear agreement. Israeli officials worry the former could erode the country’s qualitative military edge while the latter could trigger a regional nuclear arms race. Trump has tied the Saudi deal publicly to normalization with Israel and expansion of the Abraham Accords, though Riyadh hasn’t confirmed or accepted any such link.Asked on Monday about the possible fighter jet sales to Turkey and Netanyahu’s opposition to such a deal, Trump replied that “nobody” dictates the sales but him, calling Turkey a “tremendous ally.”Ahead of his departure Monday, Netanyahu said he plans to discuss “all the issues on the agenda, first and foremost, Iran. Naturally, our goal is to safeguard our security and also to expand the circle of peace around us.”The Israeli source said that Netanyahu will seek assurances that any arms sales to Turkey or nuclear cooperation with Saudi Arabia won’t compromise Israel’s military edge, along with progress on a new long-term US-Israel defense pact to replace the Obama-era memorandum that is set to expire.“Netanyahu wants to move forward from the war to other things — such as a security agreement, perhaps normalization with Saudi Arabia — and to ensure that he is coordinated with Trump regarding things that he can use in the elections,” the source said. He believes that direct engagement with Trump can bypass disagreements within the administration, the source told CNN.Netanyahu has dismissed the frictions as “tactical” disagreements, insisting the relationship is as close as ever. But an Israeli official said it took time to schedule the meeting with Trump, and that initially “he was blocked,” though it was unclear by whom. The meeting was only confirmed after Netanyahu announced he would attend Graham’s funeral.The stakes for Netanyahu are as high as ever. According to most recent polls, he falls far short of the majority needed to secure another term in October’s election. Trump has long been one of his most valuable campaign assets, and demonstrating continued influence in Washington matters for Netanyahu, who still hopes to host him in Israel for a pre-election visit.Notably, the meeting is not currently scheduled to include a public photo opportunity. Their meeting in February, however, was also kept off camera due to sensitive military planning before the war. The discretion this time could conceal the next campaign against Iran … or the tensions around the next ceasefire.The-CNN-Wire™ & © 2026 Cable News Network, Inc., a Warner Bros. Discovery Company. 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