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Transcript: New York Gov. Kathy Hochul on ‘Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,’ July 19, 2026

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The following is the transcript of an interview with New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Democrat, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on July 19, 2026.


MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to Face the Nation. We go now to the Governor of New York, Kathy Hochul. Good morning to you, Governor.

GOV. KATHY HOCHUL: Good morning.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You’ve got a big day, World Cup finals in nearby New Jersey. I know you’ll be attending those. So will the President of the United States, the President of Mexico, the Canadian Prime Minister. Given the threat environment, are you confident in the security measures?

GOV. HOCHUL: Absolutely. We’ve worked so close with our federal, state, and local partners in law enforcement. We have been preparing for this for literally over a year, over 1,000 exercises, tabletopping all the scenarios. So, we’re with the best, and particularly with NYPD, the- the world’s greatest police force. I feel very confident in our security, and we’re so happy to welcome the eyes of the world. The entire planet is going to be watching what is happening right here in the New York City area. So, it’s exciting, very exciting time for us.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Truly, billions watching, and we will be too. Governor, I want to ask you about a decision that you made this past week that made very big headlines. You signed an executive order to ban large-scale data centers for a year. These are those big buildings that help to power artificial intelligence technology centers. It was just a few months ago you said data centers were a local decision for municipalities. What- what changed for you?

GOV. HOCHUL: I would say what changed was talking to the localities and realizing they don’t have the negotiating ability to- or have the clout to be able to demand that their communities benefit from this in a more dramatic way. They also don’t have the ability to insist that these companies bring their own power, or pay more for the grid. They don’t have an ability to say no to tax breaks, and so I decided that I could do much more, especially in- and especially flooding the zone is what’s happening now. We have over 30 applicants, so in a very short time, I changed my position, saying, “You know what? The state has to lead here, but it’s not about being the first. It’s about being the first to get it right.” And we will get it right over the course of this year and help those localities negotiate the right way, make sure we’re keeping track of how much water is being consumed, doing a study of that during this year, but also insisting that these companies, and they’re welcome with the conditions and the rules that we set forth, that they also contribute to the larger grid because this is a huge tax on our grid. And I want to make sure that the power is there- unlimited power is there for the large companies that are creating jobs, like the Micron that we recruited here with 50,000 jobs. So we’ll get the right balance. But I’ll tell you this, people want protection. New Yorkers want protection. There’s a lot of anxiety. Companies want certainty. We’ll give them both.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, governors from red states like Missouri, Montana, Wyoming- they signed this White House Ratepayer Protection Pledge, which I guess has AI data centers sign on to- promising not to increase consumer prices, like companies AI- OpenAI, and Amazon say they’ll help cover the cost of infrastructure upgrades. Have you talked to companies, these companies, about doing the same in New York? Why isn’t a White House pledge like that sufficient?

GOV. HOCHUL: Asking these companies to keep their word on how much they’re going to consume- I’m more realistic than that. Perhaps I’m willing to say I will get it right in New York. We’ll work with the companies, but also- and we’re open to AI. Absolutely, this is a- a place for innovation is welcome and celebrated. But my view is, if you’re going to succeed in New York because of our talent and our resources and our people. I want to make sure that New Yorkers succeed as well. So it’s not a one-way street. I don’t want the companies coming in and telling us how to do things in our state.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

GOV. HOCHUL: But there can be- they can be welcome. When I lay out the rules of the war- world- of the road, which they will embrace. I mean, once they know how to play the game, how to do things in New York, they’ll want to come, but I need some breathing room. So my agencies, I’ve got seven agencies dedicated to different elements of this: the economic development benefits for communities, how we manage how much they’re going to be consuming in water–

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

GOV. HOCHUL: –how we make sure that- I mean, just to say, make sure the ratepayers don’t pay more. How do you enforce that? I’m more realistic. I want to get things done and make it really be effective.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It sounds like you want evidence to help get you to yes. But in the meantime, you are hearing concerns from unions, for example, that this is going to turn away jobs and that it’ll send a signal that New York is not a place for companies to invest long term. How do you address that?

GOV. HOCHUL: Well, that’s not the right conclusion from what I’ve done, we’ve been very clear. And as someone who’s created more union jobs in this state than anybody in history, the largest private sector development in American history is going on right now with this Micron. That is 20 years of union jobs building this. We also have tens of thousands of union jobs over years of building the Gateway Tunnel, which was stymied, stuck, not happening until I- until I unstuck it. So I’ve got more jobs for union members. They don’t have to worry about my commitment to their jobs. But wouldn’t they be rather building jobs that there’s jobs that remain after the construction season is over? That the project is built, that we actually have people, their neighbors, communities, people actually working in those buildings with long-term good-paying jobs, and not just focused on construction, which is very important. So, I’m asking everybody to say- take a breath. This is not the end of the world. We’ll get through this, and New York always leads in a smart way, and that’s what I’m really proud of of what we’re doing here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about election security. We’re about 100 days out from election day. States administer the elections in this country, not the federal government. Are you getting the kind of election security resources your state has gotten in the last few years? Do you have what you need?

GOV. HOCHUL: No, the federal government has basically been dismantling all the protections that we’ve come to rely on to protect this core essence of our democracy. The knowledge that when you cast that vote, that- that citizens’ right, that obligation to determine who our leaders are, that it is uncompromised. It is not being challenged by the federal government, just because they’re so worried about the upcoming results, that is exactly what is happening. I want everyone to focus on that. Yes, we passed the John Rights Voting Act. We have the toughest protections in the country, and just recently, I signed a law, many, many protections against what ICE is doing, to say ICE agents cannot show up at polling places.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.

GOV. HOCHUL: Can you see this scenario? Black and brown communities across our country and in New York, where they’re all of a sudden on election day to create that fear factor and intimidation factor that they’re so good at. I do not want to see that compromise the validity of our election. So, what Donald Trump is doing right now is throwing out the- the biggest red herring you’d ever see and questioning the- the actual results that are happening. So, we’re working hard on this here. I’ll make sure that we are protected, but I can’t count on–

MARGARET BRENNAN: But–

GOV. HOCHUL: –the federal government for any- anything these days because they’re compromised.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Under- under federal law, armed agents are not supposed to be at election centers. The attorney general nominee Todd Blanche said he’d follow the law, but it sounds like you are still concerned that that might happen. Have you–

GOV. HOCHUL: They don’t follow the law very much at all, Margaret. They don’t follow the law much at all. So again, trust but verify. I’m going to verify and ensure that New York State is doing it right. I don’t trust that they’re going to say this because what happens is, they say the day after, like, “Oh well, we didn’t mean to do it.” And, “Oh, sorry about that.” You know, these are people who go around killing individuals in our streets, so they have no credibility with me when they say anything.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We will speak to the White House about that topic shortly. Thank you very much, Governor. We’ll be right back.

A mission to save NASA’s falling observatory spun out of control. What happens next

(CNN) — A daring mission to rescue one of NASA’s crucial space observatories from falling to Earth has encountered issues of its own — but there may still be hope for both spacecraft to beat the odds.The Neil Gehrels Swift Observatory has served as an astrophysics multitool in low-Earth orbit since it launched nearly 22 years ago, acting as NASA’s first responder in space when celestial objects flare with activity, according to mission scientists.But atmospheric drag intensified by solar activity exerted its forces on the observatory. Without any intervention, Swift is likely to reenter our planet’s atmosphere this fall once it sinks below an optimal altitude of about 185 miles (300 kilometers) above Earth, according to NASA’s predictions.The agency selected Arizona-based Katalyst Space Technologies to design, build, test and launch — all in the span of just nine months — a spacecraft capable of rendezvousing with Swift and boosting its orbit.The robotic satellite, named LINK, launched on July 3. It lifted off on a Northrop Grumman Pegasus XL rocket, which was released midair by the company’s modified L-1011 aircraft, Stargazer.Everything appeared to go according to plan until LINK began to spin in space around July 25, causing a temporary loss of communications, Katalyst and NASA said on July 28.While LINK’s spin now appears to be largely under control, the satellite’s rendezvous with Swift is facing a delay. Now, it remains unclear whether LINK will reach the observatory in time.“I think one of the difficult things to convey is how amazing it is that we’ve gotten this far,” said Shawn Domagal-Goldman, division director of astrophysics at NASA, during a June 17 news conference. “Even if everyone does everything perfectly, there still might be risks that we cannot control ahead of us. I’m just deeply thankful that we’re even giving this a go.”Here’s everything that has happened so far.A tumble in the timelineAfter LINK’s successful launch into orbit, Katalyst’s mission operations team confirmed it was in communication with the satellite.Katalyst’s original plan included a few weeks of health checks for LINK’s navigation and sensors in space.Both Katalyst and NASA reported about a week after launch that commissioning was going according to plan. The satellite had deployed its solar arrays and was firing its thrusters.Katalyst said on July 13 that LINK was halfway through the activation phase. Two days later, NASA posted a similar update but also said the team had run into some issues.“The Katalyst team also quickly addressed early communications and attitude control issues seen during flight operations, including an issue with one of the spacecraft’s three reaction wheels,” according to NASA’s post on July 15. “After identifying the cause, they implemented flight software patches and operational updates that restored reliable communications and stable attitude control.”Katalyst said over a week later that the team was validating LINK’s performance, and the spacecraft was preparing for its upcoming rendezvous with Swift. Part of the process included increasing the duration of the satellite’s thruster burns to get ready for the multi-hour firings needed while grappling the observatory.But on July 28, the company said LINK had been in a multi-axis spin for three days.“Preliminary investigation shows that two of LINK’s three reaction wheels currently are not operable, and there is some loss of functionality in its cold gas thruster system,” NASA shared in a post that day, adding that Katalyst had a plan to reduce the spin and would reassess any plans related to Swift.Two days later, Katalyst provided an update that the team had reduced LINK’s spin rate from about 9 degrees per second to 4 degrees per second using a series of thruster burns.“Teams also further evaluated LINK’s functionality and determined there are still potential paths forward for a boost,” NASA shared in a post on July 31. “NASA is working closely with Katalyst to consider revised, innovative approaches.”Now, Katalyst has confirmed it is making progress with LINK to restore its original mission to save Swift. The mission team has curbed the spacecraft’s spin rate to 1.47 degrees per second. LINK will maintain this rotation speed while the team prepares for its next steps, the company said on Wednesday.“The team used one of LINK’s electric propulsion thrusters to slow the spacecraft down, consuming less than 100 grams of propellant to conserve fuel for the rendezvous and boost phase of the mission,” Katalyst said in its post.The mission team plans to send a flight software update that will restore LINK’s orientation in space and allow for the maneuvers necessary to align the satellite’s orbit with that of the observatory.A risky rescue missionOriginally, LINK was expected to conduct a survey of Swift, presumably at the end of July, to determine the best grappling points on the observatory, but that’s now expected to happen a month later.After securing Swift in its grasp, LINK will carefully fire its three ion thrusters, aiming to boost the observatory back to its original orbit over the course of two to three months.It’s unclear how the delay will impact the original plans for the mission, but prior to the satellite’s launch, members of the Swift and LINK teams both acknowledged that the path to boosting the observatory was full of risks that could cause the mission to fail.“All of this is challenging and risky,” said Kieran Wilson, principal investigator for LINK at Katalyst, during a June 17 news conference. “There’s a lot of spacecraft that have had far longer development cycles with far more funding behind them that have failed for mundane reasons.”Named for fast-flying swift birds due to its ability to pivot rapidly to peer at cosmic events and afterglows, the telescope has enabled the study of comets, gravitational waves and black holes over long periods of time.With no plans on the horizon for a telescope that has Swift’s unique capabilities, NASA decided it was more cost-effective to try to save the observatory. To prevent a drainage of power, Swift isn’t currently making science observations, but that could change this fall if LINK is successful.The-CNN-Wire™ & © 2026 Cable News Network, Inc., a Warner Bros. Discovery Company. All rights reserved.
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