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Exclusive: Congress discussing affidavits from Epstein survivors about Lesley Groff as survivors told CNN she lied

(CNN) — The House Oversight Committee has discussed with Jeffrey Epstein survivors the possibility of the women providing affidavits about longtime Epstein assistant Lesley Groff – coming on the heels of multiple survivors telling CNN that Groff had lied to the committee last month.

The ongoing deliberations between the committee and Epstein survivors were confirmed to CNN by three sources familiar with the matter and have not been previously reported. One Epstein survivor and two family members of another victim also told CNN that they were asked by the committee to comb through the transcript of Groff’s interview with the panel and alert the committee to anything that looks problematic.

“We need affidavits, sworn affidavits” House Oversight Chair James Comer told CNN’s Jake Tapper on The Lead. “We’re trying to do this just like any court in America would do.”

These developments signal that the committee is taking the accounts of Epstein survivors seriously and preparing to hold Groff accountable if she is found to have lied to Congress. While it is not clear what additional steps, if any, the committee might ultimately take related to Groff, lying to Congress is a crime. Committee investigators have also been poring over Groff’s testimony and references in the Epstein files to determine whether Groff was truthful.

Comer said that after each witness interview, his panel works with victims of Epstein’s abuse to corroborate details or point out anything that might be untrue.

“Once we question them, we are giving the victims the transcripts and letting them thoroughly go over that and say ‘do you see anything that you think is not true?’ And if they say that, then we’re going back and we’re doing research to see if they lied to Congress because if they lied to Congress that’s a felony and that’s a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. And again, that’s all a part of accountability and that’s about the only way Congress can hold anyone accountable,” he said.

Groff’s attorney Michael Bachner told CNN after the publication of this story: “Lesley stands by her testimony.” He did not respond to CNN’s previous request for comment about what survivors said about her interview with Congress.

Groff worked for Epstein for almost two decades and managed every detail of Epstein’s day-to-day schedule, making her transcribed interview session with the House Oversight Committee in June a significant part of Congress’ ongoing investigation into Epstein. She has denied any knowledge of Epstein’s crimes, and told lawmakers last month that she had been duped by a “master manipulator and deceiver.”

But the release of her interview transcript drew outrage from Epstein survivors. CNN reported on survivors taking issue with some of Groff’s key claims, including her insistence that she never met any of the girls and women whom she arranged to give massages to Epstein.

Six Epstein survivors previously told CNN they did meet Groff in person and were dismayed to learn of Groff’s denial.

Lara Blume McGee, who says she met Epstein as an aspiring model and was abused from 2001 to 2003, said she remembers meeting Groff at least twice at Epstein’s townhouse, while Lisa Phillips, who says she was in her early 20s when she first met Epstein, told CNN: “Of course I’ve met her in person.”

Groff also repeatedly told lawmakers that she never asked for or knew the ages of the girls and young women who came to see Epstein, including the fact that some of them were minors. She also said she was never aware that some were coming from local high schools.

Epstein survivor Marina Lacerda told CNN that Groff regularly asked her detailed questions about new girls that Lacerda planned to bring to Epstein, and that Groff was sensitive to Epstein’s preference for younger girls – so much so that she started asking Lacerda to tell her friends to bring their school IDs to their sessions with Epstein.

“She would ask, ‘What does the girl look like? Where is she from? How old is she?’ over the phone,” Lacerda said.

Another survivor, Sharlene Rochard, said it was not possible that Groff didn’t know her age, because she had Rochard’s passport information to plan travel. “Of course she knew how old we were because she had to look at our IDs to book our flight,” Rochard said.

One anonymous woman said she was also “100 percent” certain Groff knew that she was a minor. “I went to a private Catholic school and she would always ask me to leave school early,” she said. Epstein liked to see her in her school uniform, and that she said there were many times when Groff saw her wearing her uniform.

Survivors said Groff also was not telling the truth when she said she never directly paid the girls and women; some described receiving fresh cash in white envelopes from Groff during their years of abuse.

Lacedra, who said she was just shy of turning 14 when she first met Epstein, told CNN Wednesday that she would be glad to provide an affidavit to the oversight committee about Groff.

The committee did not comment for this story. A spokeswoman for the committee previously told CNN that the committee is “currently reviewing Ms. Groff’s transcript against the available evidence.” She added: “We welcome any additional evidence from individuals who possess information.”

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Tropical Storm Lala targets Hawaii, set to bring heavy rain and rough surf

(CNN) — Hawaii is bracing for a tropical storm that threatens to bring heavy rain, damaging wind and dangerous surf to the islands this weekend.Showers and thunderstorms roughly 800 miles southeast of the Big Island strengthened into Tropical Storm Lala early Thursday morning, according to the National Hurricane Center. Eastern parts of the state are already under a hurricane watch, through Friday afternoon, meaning hurricane conditions are possible within the next 36 hours. Lala is forecast to be near hurricane strength with sustained winds of 70 mph within the next several days.The storm’s exact path and strength remain uncertain, but it would dodge a rare landfall on its current forecast track. It is expected to be near the Big Island on Saturday, and pass south of the smaller islands on Sunday.Confidence in the exact track should improve closer to the weekend once the storm is more organized.Landfalls on the Hawaiian islands have only happened a handful of times in the modern record. The last tropical system to make landfall was Tropical Storm Olivia in 2018, which came ashore on Maui — that island’s first landfall since recordkeeping began in the 1950s.But storms that pass just south of the islands can have a similar or even greater impact than a direct hit: When surface winds and the storm’s track point in the same direction, they can combine forces and drive more water and wind onshore.Hurricane Hone took a similar path in 2024, passing just 50 miles south of the Big Island. It pushed waves as high as 18 feet onto the coast and dumped over 20 inches of rain.Rainfall poses the most serious threat as Lala moves west, especially to the island of Hawaii where confidence in significant impacts is higher. More than 8 inches of rain are possible on Maui and forecasts are calling for well over a foot of rain on the Big Island through Sunday. The heaviest totals are likely on the islands’ eastern slopes, where mountainous terrain forces air upward and squeezes out heavy rainfall like a sponge.The Big Island will be the first to see heavy rain, beginning Friday. It will spread to Maui on Saturday and reach Lanai, Molokai, Oahu and Kauai by Sunday. The National Hurricane Center has warned of life-threatening flooding and mudslides, especially in steep terrain.Lala is forecast to reach just below hurricane strength with sustained winds of 70 mph within the next several days. The Big Island is at the greatest risk of Lala’s strongest winds with the storm’s center forecast to pass just south of the island. Winds at that strength can down trees and power lines and cause power outages, a risk made worse by rain-saturated soil that makes trees easier to topple.Waves will grow as the storm approaches and potentially reach over 10 feet, although timing and exact heights remain uncertain.“This is the time to prepare, not panic,” Honolulu Mayor Rick Blangiardi said, as officials across the state urge residents to check emergency supplies, review family plans and stay informed in the coming days.A developing Super El Niño is helping fuel increased storm potential in the central Pacific this year. Warmer ocean temperatures and weaker storm-killing upper-level winds in the region make it easier for storms to form and strengthen. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has forecast an above-average central Pacific season, with five to 13 tropical cyclones expected.The-CNN-Wire™ & © 2026 Cable News Network, Inc., a Warner Bros. Discovery Company. All rights reserved.
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